Examples or "types" of Yahshua from the 'Older Wri

nursemommy · Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Charlottesville, Va

Eric,

You are misunderstanding Deut 18 and Jer. 10. The word "learn" implies to become an expert in the pagan way and practice it.

If I never picked up a book and read about the history of Christmas or Easter, I would still be practicing those pagan rituals. I did not rely only on others to tell me what it was about; I had to read it to see why it was a pagan practice so I could choose not to do it anymore.

So, how did you learn, Eric, that Easter or Christmas was pagan? Just by the words of someone else?

It is interesting that whenever someone points out to you that Jesus and Christianity has some link to paganisim (i.e Mithras, Horus), you use this misunderstanding of scripture to excuse yourself from going and reading material that could actually help you see some of the paganism within your religion.

Blessings,
Kristie
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eric · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 805 Location: Lexington, NC

Kristie,

I guide my life by the scripture alone. It is enough.

eric.

nursemommy · Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 36 Location: Charlottesville, Va

Eric,

So which scriptures showed you that Christmas was pagan? How would you know that Santa, present giving, yule logs, decorations, the birthday of the son god on the 25th of December, etc was a pagan practice by just using scripture?

So which scriptures showed you that Easter was pagan? How would you know that egg hunts, coloring of eggs, hot cross buns, the goddess Ishtar was about fertility, etc was a pagan practice by just using scripture?

Scripture alone can not show you all the history these pagan days and symbols represent. The only way of you knowing that those pagan days and the meaning of all their symbols was by someone telling you. I know you would not just solely on man to tell you what those days meant. You are a studier and a good one. But, Eric, reading outside, historical books are not wrong to do. It gives you more of the meaning of all those practices of the pagans/heathen. Without you doing some outside research, you actually are hurting yourself because you are not getting infomation that is vital in showing you how you are still practicing some of those pagan ways that YHWH says not to learn and do.

Kristie
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YahSez · Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 72

Are we told in the writings what to do on christmas? or what to do during easter?
Are we told to have a sader plate with an egg on it for passover?
Someone typed if it is not in the writings they did not do it, then they do things like remove the blue , or have them hang below the knees, all white, add days to the appointed times,(2 days of shofarim),
I can and have ask questions to the "jews" here and in other places, the reals ones do not answer, the others run, or change topics, or call names, but is that showing torah?
Because of tempers, things that happened in the past, what ever people use to do the things we do is it showing ------Love your brother more than yourself.
Sometimes there are really good debates with more than 2 people talking and showing their point of views.
may YAH'WEH place smiles on everyones face today as we see how child'ish ISH(man) has been

eric · Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 805 Location: Lexington, NC

Kristie,

You asked:

wordsmaker · Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Hutchinson

Eagle-Dove stated:

Eagle_Dove · Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 389

Carl,

That is ok, if it is inciting. I valued your input. The inciting is from those that neverending find fault if Yashua is mentioned. Only the beliefs of non Yashua believer do not insigt unless one of our brothers try to point out where it may be expanded to include Yashua.

Nevertheless, brother I appreciated your post, and that was the important part.

The rest is just natural on this site. LOL

Shalom

wordsmaker · Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 251 Location: Hutchinson

Dove stated:

mike · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 498 Location: yadkinville, nc

Dove, i appreciate your kind words. But i do understand that there are others with different opinions. I appreciate them also. I know very little about Yahweh's word. Others, who see things differently, many times cause me to look again at what i believe. I've been wrong most of my life. If i'm wrong about what i believe about Yahweh i should be willing to change.

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carl,
good post! the truth of the matter is that none of us really KNOW what we think we know. we all filter things through the many different influences of our lives, and we are ALL wrong on some things, we just don't like to admit it. lol.
mike
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Eagle_Dove · Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 389

Mike wrote:

and we are ALL wrong on some things, we just don't like to admit it. lol.

So very true brother. It is so hard for most of us to admit when we are wrong. I pray that I never get there. I know that my biggest problem is I am quite willing to take the blame, even if I still think I am right. So which is better, never admitting wrong, or always taking the blame to keep the peace.

Interesting thought.

Shalom